Lada Granta and Kalina: checking and replacing the auxiliary drive belt

06 May 2015 Lada.Online 233 084 21

The design of the generator mount for Lada Granta and Kalina 2nd generation differs from the usual one that we saw on Lada Priora or Lada Kalina 1st generation. On new Lada cars with 8 valve engines, AVTOVAZ did not provide for belt tension, so replacing the alternator belt is done differently.

According to the maintenance regulations, the alternator belt must be checked every 15 thousand km, and it must be replaced every 30 thousand km, regardless of its condition. Because The alternator belt tensioner is not used, so the belt is designed to be stretched once during installation (reuse is not recommended).

Technical regulations Lada Granta

The alternator belt is located under the alternator itself

If you rely on the manufacturer’s technical regulations, then the belt should be checked at least once every 15,000 km. And every thirty thousand kilometers, this belt needs to be replaced.

That is, it turns out to be a cycle with an interval of fifteen thousand kilometers, in which the alternator belt is alternately checked and replaced.

And, given that the tensioner, as such, is not used, the belt is focused solely on one-time stretching during installation.

There are options for reusing the belt, but this practice is highly discouraged.

How is the drive belt constructed?

The drive belt is designed in such a way as to transmit torque from the engine drive shaft pulley to the generator shaft pulley. The correct operation of the machine’s auxiliary systems, which operate on electricity, depends on the correct operation of the generator.

The belt itself is located on the right side of the engine. Depending on the year of manufacture of the car, a casing may be installed on it, or the structure may be open.

According to technical regulations, the drive belt in a Lada Granta car should be replaced at intervals of 90 thousand kilometers. The condition of the belt should be checked every 15,000 - 20,000 kilometers. However, as practice has shown, in most cases, the drive belt must be replaced at around 65,000 - 75,000 kilometers.

When seeing such a difference in the numbers specified in the technical regulations and the actual timing of belt replacement, novice motorists have the following questions:

• How do you know when the drive belt needs to be replaced?
• Is there a way to check the condition of the belt that the car owner can do independently?

Therefore, in order to understand exactly when it is necessary to replace it, you need to carry out special checks at the service center. The cost for these services starts from 5,000 thousand rubles and ends in amounts ranging from 8,500 thousand rubles. To save money, it is best to resort to a proven method that is used by experienced motorists who have owned the Grant model for more than one year. In this case, the motorist will spend about 15 minutes checking and will save about 5,000 rubles.

The method itself is as follows. The owner must shift the gearbox control lever to fifth speed. Then get out of the car, and then open the hood of the car. Then you need to rest against the car's bumper and try to push it back. During this action, you need to watch the drive belt:

• If, when pushing the car back, the belt moves or simply slides, this means that a more detailed visual inspection of the belt needs to be carried out.
• If the car does not budge and the belt does not react in any way to this action, this means that it is in good condition and does not need to be replaced.

There is also a second way to check. It is suitable for cars with both manual transmission and cars with automatic transmission.

The method itself is as follows. The driver must take chalk and then put marks on the belt. Then you need to turn on the engine starter for short periods of time. When stopping the starter, the car owner must inspect all sections of the belt. If damage is found on the belt, the belt should be replaced.

We check the condition of the alternator belt ourselves

To make sure that the belt is in good condition, you need to perform simple steps. Initially, fifth gear is engaged. On it, leaning on the front bumper, we try to push the car back. At the same time, we are trying to conduct a visual inspection of the belt along its entire length.

All the grooves have been cut off, the belt is on the verge of breaking

There, according to the general rule, there should be no cracks, even the smallest ones, as well as ruptures and peelings that occur due to long-term use of rubber products.

This belt is no longer any good.

If such problems are found, the belt must be replaced. The timing belt is checked in the same way.

It is also a good idea to check the external condition of the generator itself, since its quality raises questions. Don't forget to inspect the generator roller.

The belt is already bad, but the generator pulley is still good

Alternator belt replacement process

To carry out the replacement work, we will need the alternator belt itself, which can be purchased from official dealer representatives at a price of approximately 800 rubles.

Standard article number for alternator belt: 1118-1041020-07

• The length of this belt is 823 millimeters.
• You can find it in the catalog by name or by your own unique number 1118-1041020-07.
• The marking on the box will indicate the index 6РК 823.

In addition, prepare in advance a sufficiently long screwdriver, as well as a “13” key. You may also need a knife to remove the old belt.

To begin with, we remove the old belt, or what is left of it. As we have already said, this needs to be done every thirty thousand kilometers, even if the condition of the belt appears to be completely satisfactory. The belt can be removed with a simple knife.

We remove the belt by simply cutting it off, most conveniently with a stationery knife

After this, all that remains is to take care of tightening the lower bolt and the nut of the upper generator mounting bolt. This will be enough to set everything in place.

Alternative options

Of course, many car enthusiasts are well aware of the consequences of not having a belt tensioner. The fact is that the belt, quite often, is overtightened, which leads to too rapid wear of the generator bearing. You can recognize this problem by a characteristic sound reminiscent of a howl. This design flaw can be eliminated by installing a generator belt tensioner. The most common option is to install a tensioner from the Lada Kalina.

Installing the alternator belt tensioner

The reason for abandoning the tensioner is simple. The manufacturer tried to save additional money by making the car one of the most affordable in the world. And this is typical only for the cheapest trim levels (standard and norm), which are supplied with eight-valve power units.

How to replace the Grant alternator belt

The replacement process is not simple and depends on the equipment of the car: whether there is a tensioner, air conditioning. In the latter case, you cannot do without a lift and dismantling the engine mount due to the air conditioning compressor clutch pulley.

For a Granta with air conditioning, for installation you will need to hang the wheel and remove one engine mount.

How to change a belt on a Grant 8 and 16 valve without air conditioning and tensioner

What you will need for work :

• a knife, if you just need to cut off an old part;
• crank or ratchet with head 13;
• long strong wire;
• flat screwdriver;
• partner – you can replace it yourself, but it’s easier with an assistant.

Step 1. Dismantling

The car is on a flat surface, neutral is engaged without the handbrake. The battery is disconnected .

If the old belt is not needed, we cut it in an accessible place and take it out.

If you need to save the old one, do everything up to step 3.

A replacement is needed with a length of 8223mm, six-wedge. Called 6RK 823. PHOTO: www.zr.ru

Step 2. Remove the generator mount

We approach the generator mount with head 13:

1. we remove the lower bolt by 2-3 turns;
2. Use it to completely unscrew the top bolt.

In this situation, we proceed to installation. PHOTO: www.zr.ru

Step 3. Raise the part

Scroll the generator up. The top mount becomes higher than the bracket to which it is screwed.

We press the part to the engine. We fix it with strong wire. For example, we hang it from the cylinder head bolt.

In this situation, we proceed to installation. PHOTO: www.zr.ru

Step 4. Install a new one

We pull the new one onto the pulleys.

The installation takes place in the position of the generator when it is pressed against the engine. PHOTO: www.zr.ru

Engage fifth gear , push the car back, pressing the belt against pulley 1 in the picture. This is where a helper will come in handy.

As soon as we put it on, we work in reverse order:

• unplug the generator;
• press it into working position;
• return the upper mounting bolt and tighten the lower one.

Replacing the alternator belt on a Grant with air conditioning

It's more difficult here. Step by step :

1. we drive the car onto a lift or overpass;
2. remove the tensioner;
3. take off the front right wheel;
4. we support the internal combustion engine and dismantle the pillow;
5. change the required part.

The whole problem is in points 5 (air conditioning compressor clutch) and 7 (right engine mount) - our belt passes through them (number 6). The rest: 1-drive of auxiliary devices, 2/3-tensioner, 4-generator. PHOTO: www.zr.ru

What you need

• new belt marked 6РК 995;
• spanners 8, 19;
• socket wrenches 8, 10;
• Torx keys T20, T27;
• ratchet with extension and heads E14, 17.

Step 1. Tensioner

The car is on a lift or overpass.

Open the hood. Remove the terminals from the battery.

We find the tensioner, take out the spanners 19 and 8:

1. 19 we put on the lead screw;
2. 8 hold the locknut;
3. we touch;
4. Turn the lead screw clockwise to loosen the tension.

We remove the lock nut and loosen the tension. PHOTO taken from: www.zr.ru

Step 2. Get under the car

You need keys 8, 10 . Filming:

• central shield (numbers 1, 5, 7);
• right shield (number 2).

Step 3. Wheel

Remove the front right wheel. Using keys 8, Torx t20, t27, we dismantle the fender liner according to the diagram.

conclusions

This technical “mistake” did not happen by accident. The fact is that the Lada Granta was developed with a low retail price in mind. And, given the depreciation of the ruble, this car managed to enter the top ten cheapest cars in the world. At the same time, the equipment of the Lada Grant is much higher than that of its competitors on the list.

And some problems, like the alternator belt tensioner, can be solved yourself. Only consider warranty issues that may be violated during installation.

Despite the external similarity of the Lada Granta models with 8 and 16 valves, the method of replacing the alternator belt is different. 8-valve modifications: “Norma”, “Standard” are not equipped with an air conditioning system. The gas distribution design does not have a mechanical belt tensioner.

The Lada Granta “Lux” version with a 16-valve mechanism and pre-installed air conditioning has a built-in drive belt tensioner.

In order to provide methodological assistance to inexperienced Lada Granta owners, we will consider two ways to replace the alternator belt.

Replacing the alternator belt on the Lada Grant 8 valve

1. We place the car on a flat platform (platform) and open the hood.

We begin work after the engine has cooled down, the temperature is safe, which eliminates burns and injuries.

1. For convenience, we remove the expansion tank of the cooling system and move it to the side.
2. Using a key set to “13” we release the upper and lower fastenings of the generator, but do not twist the nuts.
3. Move the generator housing forward towards the wall of the cylinder block until it stops.
4. We reset the old RPM.

Removing the old belt

1. We carry out troubleshooting of the generator splines and crankshaft shaft. If there are no comments or deformations of the grooves, we install a new RPM.
2. Using a pry bar, move the body to its original position, screw in the nut of the lower and upper fastenings.
3. We complete the assembly.

We fix the nuts 1 - lower, 2 - upper

Replacing the alternator belt without tensioner on the Lada Grant is completed.

Setting the exact tension of the RPM at home is quite difficult, because... This requires special equipment. Use a regular tester (multimeter), every second motorist has the device.

We set the tension in the following way:

1. After putting on the belt, start the engine.
2. We put two terminals of the multimeter on the battery.
3. We look at the voltage at the “output”, its value should be close to 14.00 V. If it is less, then we increase the tension, if it is more, we release it.

DIY replacement instructions

A Lada Granta 8-valve car requires replacement of the alternator belt in the same way as a 16-valve car after identifying defects or according to the regulations. The procedure can be performed by a driver who does not have much experience in repair work. It is enough to have the necessary tools and basic knowledge of where the components that require replacement are located.

Tools and materials

Before replacing, you need to purchase a new alternator belt. In order not to make a mistake with your choice, you should look at the catalog number in the operating instructions. It should be 1118-1041020-07. The size should be 823 mm.

You should buy originals so as not to buy a fake or low-quality product. The packaging should be marked 6РК 823. You should not save money by buying a cheaper product. A low-quality belt will not last long, and the consumables will have to be changed earlier than required by regulations. High-quality belts are produced by Bosch and Gates.

You should also buy a tensioner pulley if you decide to change it too.

In addition to consumables, you need to prepare the following tools:

• a set of keys;
• TORX E-14 head;
• long screwdriver;
• jack;
• emphasis

Stages

The procedure for replacing the generator set belt on a Lada Granta with air conditioning is complicated by the fact that the belt passes through the support of the power unit. Therefore, before putting on a new strap, it will have to be dismantled.

Replacement consists of the following steps:

1. First, using a “19” wrench, you need to loosen the lock nut of the strap tensioner lead screw. While unscrewing the locknut, hold the screw with the head at “8”.
2. To loosen the belt tension, rotate the lead screw in the direction of movement clockwise. By following these steps, you can adjust the tension of the accessory drive belt.
3. To replace the strap, you need to remove the right engine mount.
4. Having moved under the car, you need to dismantle the right and middle protective shields of the engine compartment.
5. Then unscrew the fastenings in the middle and front part of the right front wheel arch liner. Next, bend the fender liner behind the wheel brake disc.
6. Using a jack, we hang the right front wheel and dismantle it. The fender liner fastenings can now be released.
7. At the next stage, we place a stop under the oil pan of the power unit so that it holds the weight of the engine.
8. Using a TORX E-14 head, unscrew the screws that secure the support to the cylinder block bracket of the power unit. Using the “17” socket, unscrew the two nuts and the support bolt that secures it to the body side member.
9. We dismantle the engine mount with the cushion.
10. Now, through the resulting opening, you can remove the strap from the pulleys of the auxiliary units and pull it out of the engine compartment.
11. We install a new consumable in place of the worn-out product. In this case, its tension should be adjusted using the tensioner screw. The deflection of the belt in the gap between the air conditioner compressor and the power unit pulley with a force of 10 kilograms should be within 7-8 mm.
12. We perform assembly in the reverse order of removal.

This completes the replacement. Now you know how to replace and tighten the generator set belt on a Lada Granta.

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Replacing the alternator belt on a Lada Granta 16 valves (Lada Granta with air conditioning)

1. Jack up the right side of the car and remove the wheel.
2. Unscrew the five screws in the wheel arch and remove the lower part of the “protection”. This is necessary to ensure unobstructed access to the engine mount; it must be removed.
3. Unscrew the 8 bolts around the perimeter of the oil pan protection and remove it.

Mounting points for the mudguard and fender liner: 1 — screw with a Torx T-27 key for general fastening of the mudguard and fender liner to the wheel arch; 2 — two Torx T-20 screws for general fastening of the mudguard and fender liner to the wheel arch and fender; 3 - Torx T-20 key screw for fastening the fender liner to the wing; 4 — four self-tapping screws “8” for fastening the fender liner to the wheel arch; 5 - four Torx T-20 screws for fastening the fender liner to the front bumper.

1. We install a wooden block in the center of the oil pan and lower the car onto the block.
2. We unscrew the engine mount; it is secured with two bolts and one nut (at “17”).

Signs of wear on the RPM

Before you start replacing the RPM, conduct your own diagnostics and evaluate the actual condition of the parts and mechanisms. Perhaps the cause of the malfunction is in another unit adjacent to the generator.

1. We open the hood, the engine must cool down so as not to damage the skin of the hand and fingers.
2. We put the gear in neutral and turn the alternator belt. Rotation occurs quite easily, by hand, without special equipment.
3. We inspect each area one by one.

Signs of wear on the RPM

The following will indicate the need to replace the RPM:

• fraying, side abrasions;
• peeling of rubber, thread fiber;
• other mechanical damage;
• teeth tears;
• the presence of oily traces and streaks on the surface of the belt.

If there are no comments on the RPM, we proceed to inspect the tensioner roller. Often the reason for the appearance of third-party noise is precisely this, worn-out roller bearings. We loosen the structure with our hands and check that it is working properly.

If the belt breaks on the way, it is allowed to travel on the battery's reserve energy, but not more than one hour. In practice, experts recommend no more than half an hour of free movement.

Review of manufacturer prices for Lada Granta alternator belt

Belt technical parameters:

• Length: 823 mm.
• Thickness: 3.0 mm.
• Material: ethylene propylene rubber.
• number of ribs: 6.

General questions about working with the Grant generator

Let's consider general questions: everything except replacement.

Tension check

There are two approaches: visual assessment and physical.

Visual assessment of condition:

1. the car is on a flat surface, the gear is in neutral, the handbrake is off, the hood is open;
2. We don’t start the car - we put it in 5th gear;
3. We opened the hood and found a generator: we push the car back, resting against the bumper;
4. We inspect the required part along its entire length: are there any breaks or cracks? It needs to be changed.

Poor quality will lead to unexpected problems on the way.
Physical assessment :

• if you have a tool that measures pressure force: press the belt with a force of 10 kg*s - the deflection should be no more than 10 mm;
• there is no special tool: we try to turn it across - it should turn no more than 90 degrees.

How to tighten the alternator belt on a Grant

This section applies only to machines with a tensioner. No - change the part or see above how to install it.

Subsequence:

1. we use ring wrenches 8, 19;
2. Throw key 19 onto the lead screw;
3. wrench 8 for locknut;
4. we touch;
5. Now you can turn the lead screw: clockwise to loosen, counterclockwise to tighten;
6. got the desired result - tighten the locknut.

It is better to take ring wrenches, since a head with a ratchet or a wrench will not work.

When to change: technical regulations for replacing a VAZ 2190 belt

AvtoVAZ requires checking the condition of this part every 15,000 kilometers .

every 30,000 kilometers, regardless of condition.

How to remove a generator on a Grant

It needs to be removed for repairs, replacement of bearings or rollers.

The step-by-step process involves:

1. remove the negative terminal from the battery;
2. working with the generator: disconnect the wiring harness from it;
3. remove the cover of the power wire nut, remove the nut and remove the wire from the bolt;
4. unscrew and pull out the upper and lower fastening bolts - to work with the lower one, you may need to climb into a hole, throw off the tin protection of the internal combustion engine and dismantle it from below;
5. move the part to the right mudguard, remove the belt, and remove it.

You can do without a hole . Example:

How to choose an alternator belt for the Lada Granta

• Wedge-shaped: the shape of the teeth is wedge-shaped, trapezoidal in outline. The strap is designed to transfer increased force between two nearby shafts. The wedge shape is not designed for reverse bending. That is, it is prohibited to install it on the Lux model.
• Poly-V-ribbed is a universal type: its shape resembles several belts glued together.
• Toothed: There are transverse grooves on the inside. This type of RPM is designed to transmit the maximum number of rotation and traction force. Installed on the Lada Granta to ensure the operation of the gas distribution mechanism.

Types of alternator belts

As a rule, belts come in several main types.

V-belt. First of all, we are talking about wedge-shaped models that have the outline of a trapezoid. They are capable of transmitting increased forces and also operating under overload conditions.

What is characteristic of such belts is that they are not oriented towards reverse bending, so that they can be used to transmit rotation from the crankshaft to no more than two devices.

V-ribbed belt.

Next comes the serpentine belt, which is shaped like a pair of V-belts glued together.

Toothed belts. And, of course, there are timing belts that have transverse grooves on their inner side.

The key characteristic of such a belt is that it has maximum accuracy in transmitting rotation, so this particular belt is used to ensure the operation of the timing belt.

As for the alternator belt option for the Lada Granta with air conditioning, there are some comments regarding its replacement that we described above.

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Tensioning the Lada Granta generator belt will be quite simple. To do this, you will need an open-end wrench set to “19” and tighten the tensioner nut a little at a time. We check the degree of tightening with our hands, so that when turning it can only turn to the middle. In this simple way, you can correctly tighten the generator belt on Grant with your own hands in just a minute. The very first symptom of poor tension of the generator drive belt is a characteristic whistle. Therefore, after tensioning the belt, we also start the engine and let it run at different speeds to make sure that the belt no longer whistles.

Power for the vehicle's electrical equipment while driving is provided by a generator, which operates thanks to a belt drive. Therefore, the effective operation of the unit depends on the condition of the belt. This is a consumable item that requires regular replacement. The article provides instructions on how to check and replace the belt on a Grant alternator with air conditioning.

Technical regulations for Lada Granta cars

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Replacing the alternator belt on Granta (Video)

Hi all. The time has come to replace the alternator belt and then away we go. It would seem that it would be difficult to take off the old one and put on the new one. but it was not there. ardent greetings to that fool who decided not to install a belt tensioner. he’s just not a good person, I would say it differently, but I don’t want to swear, I think whoever changed himself will understand what I mean.

so. This means he simply cut off the belt with a knife and began trying to pull on a new one, and yes, just pull it on. Like a chain on a bicycle, this is the principle of replacement without a tensioner. and I did everything I could, guiding it with a screwdriver, turning the wheel, and pushing the car. I looked on the Internet for all possible replacement methods, but nothing helped. Everything was to no avail and I just walked away without tightening my belt. He didn’t get into anything, he just started to tear