How to overcome sagging doors — Lada 2110, 1.5 l., 2003 on DRIVE2
Hi all! Today's post will be short and with a few photos of the slippers, because the problem was corrected spontaneously, without any preparation. It's no secret that the door hinges in the Tens and Priors are not the most powerful. Many people face the problem of sagging doors after installing additional noise or heavy speakers. I have both points present) The driver's door sagged noticeably: Yes, it sagged so much that when closing it began to cling to the passenger door with the upper corner, knocking off the paint on itself and on it. This needs to be fixed!
Problem: the door is sagging and when closing it slightly catches the back
After googling, I realized that the easiest way to lift the door is to place a washer under the bottom hinge. And finally, after work, I had some free time, two washers were bought and the problem was quickly fixed. You will need washers with a 10 mm hole.
I bought a couple of washers
The door hinge fastening bolt is tricky - with a 13 head, but with a 10 thread, and not an 8 thread, as is most often the case. So it is not recommended to lose it) The procedure is extremely simple - unscrew the bolt and place a washer between the hinge on the door and the mating part on the body. I placed one washer about 1.5-2 mm thick.
Door hinge and bolt. You need to put a washer under it
The door lifted and stopped clinging to the back. At the same time, the door was not particularly warped; the gaps with other body elements turned out to be even. You can clearly align the position of a closed door relative to another door by adjusting the position of the lock pin on the central pillar, which is what I did.
Result: the door closes easily, the paint no longer peels off. Profit! It took about 15 minutes at most.
Price: 4 ₽ Mileage: 100,700 km
Front door trim
Note: The following describes how to remove and install the door trim on the left side. Removal and installation in the door on the right side are carried out in the same way.
1. Open the front door from the side we need. In our case, the left door.
Attention: To avoid damage to upholstery elements, wrap the screwdriver blade with adhesive tape before use.
2. Using a screwdriver, carefully pry up and then remove the decorative trim of the door handle.
3. Use a Phillips screwdriver to unscrew the two fastening screws...
... and then remove the door handle.
4. Using a screwdriver, carefully pry the cover of the inner door opening handle to overcome the force of the two latches, and then remove it.
5. Use a Phillips screwdriver to unscrew the three lower fastening screws...
... and, disengaging the upper clamps, disconnect the lower shelf from the door trim, in which the window switches are installed.
6. Disconnect the electrical connectors of the two power window switches...
... and then finally remove the bottom shelf.
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How to determine sagging car doors
The most common signs or, one might say, symptoms of sagging doors can be unpleasant phenomena:
- every manipulation of the car doors is accompanied by excessive effort;
- driving along an uneven road, you can hear a characteristic rattling, tapping sound, as if something is rubbing;
- water penetrates into the interior through the seal;
- sills with deep scratches.
What causes such terrible sagging:
- the fastening of door hinges weakens over time;
- door bending;
- wear of axial parts.
Finding a specific option that suits your car is not difficult. It is enough to open the door slightly, then pull it, holding it by the lower part. This way you can determine whether there is play in the hinges and fixation points. If it is absent, it will mean that there are no problems with the doors. A visual inspection of the areas where they are attached to the body is also carried out. Having discovered deformation there, sagging is inevitable.
Repair of sagging vase doors
A common problem that occurs on Lada Priora, VAZ 2110, 2112 and 2111 cars that have been driving on our roads for many years is sagging doors. When driving, an unpleasant rattling sound is heard. The doors move. We'll tell you how to fix this and carry out repairs without welding and a grinder. At first we tried the method of installing an additional door seal, it was glued and the sound disappeared for about two weeks, then it appeared again. Then Horse penetrating lubricant was purchased, the door hinges were treated with it, as a result the sound disappeared, but unfortunately again temporarily, it lasted for about 5 days, then we had to repeat the procedure again and again.
Now we move on to a major overhaul that can fix the problem once and for all. To do this, you will need to remove the doors; before doing this, you need to lower the glass (so that when dismantling, the door is comfortable to hold). We unscrew the hinges, pull out the wires without removing the door card; it is more convenient to remove them through the plastic lining in the cabin.
We knock the finger out of the loop. To do this, you need one good blow, first knock it up a little, then immediately down, since at the top the door itself will prevent him from leaving. It is best to cover the surrounding surface with masking tape to avoid scratching the paint. There is no need to saw or drill, you just need to first lubricate everything well with penetrating lubricant. After replacing the hinges, the sagging disappeared and the unpleasant knocking noise stopped.
Video of sagging doors, how to fix sagging doors in a VAZ 2110, Lada Priora:
Backup video - what to do if the doors sag in the Lada Priora, VAZ 2110:
Published on August 29, 2016
doors sagging VAZ 2110-2112 repair 5 minutes using a bolt
And then you’ll have to remove the gap between the door and the wing. Stupid!
Do you think you fell for it and others will fall for it?))
It’s easier to throw the washer under the bottom hinge, and you don’t need to bend anything.
and then why drive like that with this bolt??
bitch what are you teaching people you bend the nooses bitch for 2 weeks donkey
Damn, I overdid it and as a result, my door now won’t close, it’s hitting the crap where the tongue from the lock is supposed to go. How to fix it now?
And if such a problem is in the 12th model, the doors open hard, suddenly after winter they begin to open hard, you have to make an effort to open what is the problem?
I’ve already had the doors done this way on several cars by a craftsman in our car market; the last adjustment lasted for, say, 7 years! Thanks to the author of the video, thanks to him I understood the meaning of the action: if the door sagged, you need to increase the arm of the lower hinge, this can be achieved in two ways - you can unscrew the lower hinge and place a washer, or you can pull out the hinge using the method described by the author. Good luck everyone! Don't overdo it!)))
Installing a hinge for a VAZ 2110 car door
Car doors, like the doors of a house, should look beautiful and reliable, easy to open and close. Big troubles are associated with a sagging door; it is not only not aesthetically pleasing, but also inconvenient. It may make a creaking or dull knock; if it is not closed tightly, water will flow into the cabin. One of the ways to eliminate defects is to replace the hinges on the doors of the VAZ 2110.
The article suggests familiarizing yourself with doing the work yourself.
Why do doors sag?
There are several reasons that affect the reliability of door fixation and sagging:
- The hinges and axles are badly worn. The door of the vases began to close poorly, and when opening it required considerable force.
- The fastening has become loose and a metallic creak is heard when driving on uneven roads.
- The pairing of the door fixing elements was broken: the hinges were skewed, and cracks formed in the door body. This leads to uneven gaps and the appearance of water in the cabin after rain.
- The door was hit in an accident.
- The doors have not been installed or adjusted correctly.
How to fix sagging doors
Advice: Before carrying out work, it is necessary to determine the cause of the sagging.
Why the door sagged, a small test can help:
- With both hands you need to grab the bottom of the door and, with slight loosening, check the gap in the vertical plane. Play in the VAZ 2110 door hinge is not allowed.
- The door is grasped with hands from above and below. Then you need to try to turn it in a horizontal axis; there should be no movement of the door, no gap is allowed.
- A visual inspection is made of the places where the door hinges are fixed to the car body on a VAZ 2110 car, the hinges of the sagging door are compared with the same elements of a working one, the differences in them are determined and a conclusion is made.
Removing the door trim
Dismantling the door structure of the VAZ 2114 and removing the front door will require a set of equipment. To gain access to the panel, which is covered with material, the handle is unscrewed, the electrical wiring is disconnected, the speakers are removed and the clips are removed. Required tool:
You should take care of the place where the work will take place. It is recommended that this be an enclosed room, without drafts and with good lighting. Dismantling instructions:
- The plugs under which the connecting bolts are located are removed. The handle secured with two screws is unscrewed.
- The bracket leading to the window regulator is removed.
- The clips holding the panel come off. You will need to pull it towards you a little, but do not pull it out.
- The electrical wiring is disconnected: from the speakers and power windows. If it is not the rear door that needs to be dismantled, then the side view mirror wiring is disconnected.
- The decorative item with the covering is removed.
It is easier to remove the clips with a knife, but it is worth wrapping the blade with a rag so as not to accidentally scratch individual body parts. After this, it becomes possible to detach the fabric from the panel and replace the fabric.
Working with a lock
If we look at the diagram of the castle, it consists of two main parts. The first is the capacitor, that is, the part that is located on the racks, and the lock itself. The door closing process looks something like this:
- the door closes;
- the moving part in the lock mechanism is rolled along the rack;
- the protrusion ends up in the condenser cavity and the door closes.
A completely understandable process, as well as a reason that can influence poor performance. Often this is due to lack of lubrication. If there is little lubrication, then the rotating parts begin to rub against each other strongly and there is increased wear of the mechanism and many other negative consequences, which can also lead to sagging doors.
If the mechanism is properly lubricated, then a situation may occur where the capacitor is located far from the lock itself. As a result, the protrusion simply does not reach the cavity and the door does not close or does not close tightly. In such a situation, you need to work with the part on the stand and move this part towards the door part of the mechanism. The work is quite simple. First you need to unscrew the bolts on the stand and move the structure a little. Metal plates that are placed under the capacitor can also be used.
The doors sagged — Lada 2110, 1.5 l., 2003 on DRIVE2
Unable to withstand the abuse of several layers of sound insulation and heavy acoustic podiums, the doors sagged shamelessly. The doors began to close and especially hard to open, and the locks began to break. It’s not difficult to guess that repairing or replacing a hinge is just hemorrhoids. But Russian ingenuity never let us down. Everyone has long known the method of placing a washer between the body and the hinge, so I decided to try it.
First you need to decide on the choice of washer. A washer with an outer diameter of 20mm and a hole diameter of 10mm is ideal. The thickness of the washer is selected depending on the degree of sagging of the door. For the heavily sagging driver's door, I used a washer 1.5mm thick, and for the passenger door about 1mm.
Having decided on the washer, let’s get down to business and unscrew the bottom bolt securing the door.
The bolt is too tight, use more leverage
Because The door is quite heavy; you should have a partner who will hold it so as not to collapse the top hinge. Well, or if you don’t have a partner, you can put some kind of stop under the door. Having unscrewed the bolt, pull the door towards you a little and slip the washer under the hinge. Then we screw everything back in and get the thrill of a well-functioning door. The entire procedure, including the selection of washers, took no more than 20 minutes. Of course, this cannot be called a full-fledged renovation, but the result is obvious and cannot but rejoice. I hope that the hinges will hold out for some time, although ideally I think it is necessary to weld the hinges from some foreign car, or from the Volga, VAZ hinges are complete slag.
When do you need to replace VAZ 2110 door hinges?
Do-it-yourself VAZ 2110 door repair
Sagging car doors are a disease of used cars. To solve this problem, you often have to resort to a radical method of replacing (digesting) the hinges, and for this you need to dismantle the doors, which takes a lot of time and effort. However, in most cases, doors can be straightened using simpler and faster methods.
Signs of a sagging car door:
- The doors do not close well or require force to open them.
- When driving over uneven surfaces, the doors squeak (metal squeak).
- After rain, water appears in the cabin.
- There are scratches on the sills.
- Due to the skew of the door, uneven gaps appear.
You should start by tightening the door hinge bolts. If this doesn't help, then try the following tips:
How to straighten car doors
The old-fashioned way is to fight sagging with your own hands. That is, we take our hands by the back of the door, where the lock is, not the hinges, and lift it up. The door should be slightly open so that you can comfortably grab it with your hands. First, apply a little effort and look at the result. If this is not enough, then we increase the effort according to the situation. If there is no effect at all, then try first slightly lifting the door (it will rise along with the body), and then sharply pull it up.
The same method can be applied using a jack. The door should also be slightly open. We place a jack under the edge of the door through a block so as not to bend the door. We lift the door in the same way, at first a little, if this is not enough, we increase the force.
As a rule, such methods solve the problem of sagging doors, but for a certain time. After bending the door like this, sooner or later it will still return to its initial sagging state. A more reliable method is to lay plates of a certain thickness:
Remove sagging doors using washers
You will need to prepare several washers with an outer diameter of 20mm and a hole diameter of 10mm. The washers should be of different thicknesses; the thicker the washer, the more sagging of the door it will eliminate. For a heavily sagging door, a washer with a thickness of 1.5 mm may be suitable, and for a slightly sagging door, about 1 mm.
How to align the doors of a VAZ 2110 using a bolt
You will need a finger-sized bolt. Procedure: Place the bolt from the inside on the bottom hinge of the door, head up, so that it hangs on the edge of the hinge. We carefully close the door so that the bolt does not fall, but becomes jammed inside the hinge. Slowly close the door and see the result. If necessary, repeat the procedure again, the main thing is not to overdo it.
By the way, one of the reasons for the rapid sagging of doors is the weight that increases after installing sound insulation or podiums.
We decorate the interior by tuning or replacing the door trim of the VAZ 2110 with our own hands
Replacement options
Today you can find VAZ 2110 door cards ready for installation, especially in the Lux or Lux 2 versions; they can be either purely plastic or with fabric inserts.
There are also euro panels, which in online stores are most often called “Door trim for VAZ 2110 Lux 2”. The finished cladding probably has only one drawback - its high price.
But there is another, more budget-friendly option - to do the door trim yourself. With the right approach, you will cope with this task, and we will tell you how to do it correctly.
Tools and materials
Before you start upholstering doors with your own hands, you need to stock up on what you can’t do without:
- Fabric or vinyl (another name is faux leather) is best purchased in stores that sell fabrics. Even before you go there, take measurements of your doors so that there is about 5 centimeters of allowance on each side. This is necessary to ensure that the fabric fits perfectly, and most importantly, that it is enough to fill all the protrusions and cavities;
- Glue like Moment or another that has worked well for you. Possibly – Titan, Master, etc.;
- Cutting scissors;
- Stationery type knife;
- Construction hairdryer. If you are unlikely to need it in everyday life, you can often rent it;
- 2 brushes: narrow and wider with normal bristles;
- Antenna cable;
- Upholstery fastening pistons (clips). It is better to take them with a small reserve, since their removal is often accompanied by breakage. Please note that each door has 8 pistons;
- Self-tapping screws. If you are making fabric or vinyl trim, then standard, short screws, the same as the previous ones on the door, will do. But if you are going to install Euro panels with your own hands, then to attach them to the bottom you will need long self-tapping screws;
- You may need new speakers, these should also be purchased in advance. Please note that usually in ready-made Lux 2 panels there are holes for speakers of 16 - 17 cm.
Front doors
Removing door trims is not at all difficult. The only unpleasant thing is that the clips are often damaged.
Purpose of the cladding
To understand how to remove the door trim of a VAZ 2114, you need to find out the purpose of this automobile fragment. The fabric insert enhances the appearance of the interior. If stains, mechanical damage or abrasions appear on it, you will need to disassemble the inside of the door, remove the panel, and attach a new lining. Thanks to this element:
- the interior becomes more attractive;
- additional sound insulation is created;
- a speaker is installed in the facing fragment;
- electrical wiring and fasteners are hidden;
- The corners of the closed plastic panel and iron parts are softened.
An easy way to adjust doors without service
The problem is relevant for the vast majority of used cars over 10 years old. It is expressed both in the visual curvature of the general line of the doors and in difficult opening and closing. The reason is quite natural: the door is a very massive structure, and the hinges and other elements on which it is held simply wear out. It also happens that the car was in the hands of “qualified specialists” - then all hell breaks loose... And today I want to tell you a simple and accessible adjustment algorithm that, with some effort, will allow you to “bring” the doors almost to the factory position. But first, a little theory.
A car door (like any other) is based on “three pillars” that affect its position relative to the body.
Element #1 : loops. Yes, in fact these are ordinary hinges, like the doors in our houses. Except that the form is somewhat more complex.
Element #2 : lock mechanism. The one on the door itself. As the name suggests, it is the one that snaps into place, locking the door in the closed position and opens when we pull the opening handle.
Element #3 : lock mate. Which is located in the body opening. This is what the door lock tongue clings to when we close it.
It seems like nothing complicated. But any body shop, when asked to adjust the doors, will either simply brush off your request or charge a quite tangible amount for it (from a thousand rubles per door). And of course, it will still make it crooked. Therefore, if you want it to really work out conscientiously, you need to choose a nice day and take everything into your own hands.
Car door sagging
The problem of sagging doors sooner or later appears in any car. Of course, this situation occurs more often on inexpensive cars, but this does not make it any easier for the owner. What can you do about a sagging door?
The sagging of a car door is expressed primarily in its difficulty closing. After all, being lower than the factory position, the door can no longer fully enter its opening. Because of this, you have to make an effort to close it, and the sound leaves much to be desired. The result is accelerated wear of the locks and even greater breaking of the hinges.
Reasons for sagging car doors
There are two reasons: the hinges are too weak and the door is too heavy.
Weak hinges are factory problems and usually mean poorly designed hinges that simply cannot support the weight of the door. Flimsy hinges “develop too quickly and too much”, play appears and as a result the open door moves down several millimeters.
The second problem, as a rule, is created by car owners themselves. A huge amount of heavy vibration insulation
, install a massive speaker, and in addition to this a beautiful podium weighing half a kilogram. All this gives the door additional weight, which the hinges may not be designed for...
However, you can’t drive without music and with the door humming from vibration?! Here comfort clearly outweighs the looming problem with hinges. Moreover, dealing with sagging doors is not so difficult.
Replacement of all door locks, rods and cylinders on VAZ 2113, VAZ 2114, VAZ 2115
Welcome! Door - it consists of a cylinder, a rod, an external lock, an internal lock, etc., thanks to which the door of the car is held while moving, preventing it from opening; over time, the locks or the cylinder itself become unusable and when inserted the key into the cylinder, turning it in it, the door may not open or close, this will indicate that either the cylinder, or the rod, or the internal lock has become unusable and it’s time to change them, this is not very difficult to do and can be done Even an ordinary car enthusiast can do this if he does everything carefully and follows the instructions that we described in this article.
Note! To replace the lock on a car door, you will need to take from the tools: an impact screwdriver, as well as a regular screwdriver, you will also need grease, and the new parts themselves!
Summary:
Where are all the door locks, rods and cylinders located? As you already understood, there are only two locks, one of them is internal, which is located inside the door and is hidden by the trim, and the other is external, you see it constantly when you open the door and for clarity in the photo below it is also indicated by an arrow, in addition to this, the larva is also present thanks to which opens the internal lock and there is also a thrust that goes from the cylinder to this lock, by the way, if the thrust suddenly jumps off the cylinder, then you will no longer open the door and therefore you will have to remove the trim from the door on which the cylinder is faulty or replace it with a new one (If the old one is deformed) or simply put the rod on the larva as it was put on before (This is done with the help of your hands) and everything will start working for you again.
When do you need to change all door locks, rods and cylinders? If any of the things listed in the question itself become unusable, then your door will either stop opening (This may be due to a malfunction of the locks), or it will open, but by inserting the key into the cylinder, you will be able to close and open the car too (This either the rod has jumped off the cylinder, or the cylinder itself has worn out), it may also be that the key simply does not turn (the lock cylinder itself is definitely to blame for this and it must be replaced).