Which winch should I put on a Chevrolet Niva?

Of course, before you buy a winch for the Niva, it would be a good idea to decide under what conditions you plan to use it. Will it be just periodic trips to pick mushrooms and picnics, or are you ready to get involved in the gambling “rides” of off-roaders in the most merciless wilderness and dirt. If the choice leans towards the second option, the minimum option is unlikely to suit you. Indeed, in this case, you need a powerful, trouble-free tool, capable of taking on the “impact” of off-road conditions, swamps, sand and water, just like a car.

An example of such a device is the T-MAX EW-6500 electric winch of the IMPROVED OFF-ROAD series (traction force 2950 kg, device weight 30 kg). T-MAX is one of the most famous brands in Ukraine and is one of the best representatives of “quality China”.

But such “eminence” and the quality corresponding to it have one unpleasant moment - a relatively high price. Therefore, if in your opinion the high costs do not justify the upcoming way of using the winch, then you can opt for the workhorse DRAGON WINCH DWM 8000 HD (pulling force 3600 kg, device weight 32 kg) made in Poland. This brand has proven itself quite well in Ukraine, combining decent quality and low price. A big advantage of the entire Dragon Winch range is that almost all winches are equipped with wireless remote controls with a range of up to 30 m.

An even more powerful option is electric winches with a pulling force of 10,000-12,000 pounds (4540-5443 kg). The POWERWINCH PW12000 winch (pulling force 5443 kg, device weight 42 kg) has decent build quality and at the same time is characterized by a fairly low cost for its class. In addition to the wired one, the package includes a radio remote control. The POWERWINCH PW12000 Extreme HD winch (pulling force 5443 kg, device weight 42 kg) is more expensive, but is made more solidly, has a modern design, is waterproof, and is equipped with a single remote control for wireless and wired control.

An excellent choice is the SUPERWINCH TIGER SHARK 9500 electric winch (pulling force 4309 kg, device weight 41 kg). The brand, formed in the late 1960s with the participation of Ford engineers, quickly gained its audience of connoisseurs in the United States and entered the international market. In the 2000s, the bulk of production capacity moved to China, which significantly influenced pricing policies. And, as a result, today we have a global brand that easily competes in price with its less famous “comrades” while possessing significantly higher quality indicators. According to both experts and ordinary motorists who have had the opportunity to use this equipment, it is an example of classic “American” quality.

Needless to say, such “monsters” guarantee that the jeep will be pulled out of the most impassable mud, as long as there is enough battery charge. True, here lies the first pitfall of an overly powerful winch - high power consumption. There is some possibility that for long-term operation you may need a larger battery or even two. Naturally, this leads to higher construction costs and increased weight.

Another disadvantage of powerful winches is their relatively large weight. Thus, the aforementioned POWERWINCH PW12000 Extreme HD weighs 42 kg, and SUPERWINCH TIGER SHARK 9500 – 41 kg. For such a light SUV as the Niva, this can cause a significant load on the front axle. The only way to make the winch somewhat lighter is to use synthetic Kevlar cable instead of steel cable.

Therefore, we recommend that Niv owners still have the “golden mean” - one of the winches mentioned above with a force of 6500-8000 lbs (Dragon Winch or T-MAX). If, while saving the vehicle’s payload, it is necessary to ensure maximum traction force, then for such extreme cases additional power can be provided by using a pulley block with a winch. This device will help strengthen the winch (or relieve it) almost 2 times. By the way, one of the most dangerous circumstances for the performance of a winch is overload, so in order to increase the service life of this device, always try to have an additional reserve of power so that the winch does not work at 100%.

You should also take into account the fact that the traction force declared by the manufacturer occurs only when the cable is unwound to its full length. And as it is wound, when the diameter of the drum increases, the force gradually drops and at the very end it can be 30 percent less than the original.

If you want to buy a winch for the Niva, the PRAGMATEC online store will provide a wide selection of devices of different types and price categories that can satisfy the most specific needs. Our managers will help you make a choice and buy a winch with minimal overhead costs in a telephone consultation.

Easy selection and effective use.

Tags: Niva, winch, off-road

Comments 54

Just don’t buy a cheap Chinese Winch. You'll throw away your money. Their current consumption is crazy, but I generally keep quiet about quality. Also keep in mind that the Chinese Winch 9000 is not even 6000. The characteristics are simply overstated...

I decided to take 4x4 12000.

Well, in tourism we very well practice a regular chain hoist with a JET-A type handle with a 4.5 m long chain. She jerks instantly, she doesn’t give a damn about the dirt. The gearbox on the lever is quite traction, and if one is accelerating in the car, and the other is pulling the swan, then with the proper skill everything can be done very quickly. Also, don’t forget that if you hang the same camp with a steel cable, then it’s +50 kg on the front and add the structure of the bumper, braces and platform there.

We have already pulled out the Niva using a hand winch. One is dragging like a swan, and the other is accelerating!

ideal 9.5 comeup or kingone, 6500 will not be enough, although it depends on how you plan to plant. But there is always not enough winch at the most necessary moment and you always want it to move faster =) Don’t just put the swan in the lounge on the field, be sure to stretch the platform onto the beam, then it will stand forever. China Winch is also an option if you use it very rarely. But unlike the camap, having to sort it out once a year, regardless of whether it was shaking or not, the water and other things that get into it will do their job for both the motor and the gearbox.

Understood! Thanks for the info. Can you tell me more about the mounting and platform? I would like to avoid mistakes in advance.

No one is going to argue with you, and no one knows what you are comparing it to. And no one calls your statements bullshit. Be your own opinion.

If you don’t want to fit in additional equipment, then throw the usual manual one in the trunk. For an ordinary person, in the field behind his back.

We tried this. There was something I didn't like very much. Maybe, of course, there was such a winch! (a friend took his own). And taking into account the fact that in the Niva there is already little space for things, when you go fishing for several days, I would like to install it regularly. But thanks for the option!

This one lies in the UAZ, about 2 times it swans foxed 1-2 meters for about 15 minutes

Chinese winch 6000 More than for you

But won't he be weak?

What kind of wheels do you have?*

I just bought a Niva last summer. First of all, I want to install a winch. The tires are currently Kama Flame.

Maybe in time you will understand the commandment: when the car is not prepared, the winch turns from a means of rescue into a means of transportation.

I told you that I only bought a car last summer. And I’m not a millionaire to buy everything at once. Here I asked for advice about the winch, and not about tires and car preparation.

I answered you. Good luck in your choice. I told you my word, and then do as you wish!

Winch for Niva: how to choose what to buy?

In the vastness of the CIS and Ukraine, the Niva has been and remains a fairly popular SUV.
This is due, first of all, to the low price and availability of spare parts with the well-known design of the Togliatti machine. Therefore, one of the most popular topics for discussion on automobile forums is the topic “Winch for Niva.” Let's try to figure out which winch is best to choose, from which manufacturers and what related options to use. The review provides several examples that you can use as final options or build your own vision of the issue on their basis. First of all, you should start from the characteristics of the car itself. The determining factor here is weight.

Depending on the modification, different Nivas can weigh:

• VAZ 2121 – 1150kg
• VAZ-21213 – 1210kg
• VAZ-2131 (five-door) – 1350kg
• VAZ-21236 – 1400kg (Niva Chevrolet) – 1400kg

In addition, additional equipment installed on SUVs will further increase this figure.

Taking into account the required optimal 2-2.5-fold power reserve, we receive a power requirement for the winch - it must have a pulling force from 2300 kg to 3600 kg and more. However, during the selection process, please note that the power indices often indicated in model names - for example, 8000 or 12000 - correspond to force in pounds (lbs). Traditionally, it is American manufacturers who set the tone in this area, and, as you know, they have a different, British system of weights and measures. Therefore, when reading the name of the winch model, you should multiply the digital power index by 0.454 - the weight of a pound in kilograms of the metric system.

Most car enthusiasts, as well as commentators in articles and forums, agree that it is not worth buying a winch with a traction capacity of less than 5000-6000 pounds (2.7 tons) for any of the Niva modifications. The cheapness of such a device is likely to quickly come out “sideways” in the very first serious tests in swamps, mud and off-road conditions. It is this threshold - 6000 pounds - that can be considered the starting point when selecting a winch.

Choosing a winch for Niva: a comprehensive study of the issue

Accessory on the car

The winch on the Niva today is hardly considered an exotic additional equipment. Nowadays, not only special-purpose vehicles are equipped with winches, but also any vehicle intended for off-road driving. They have become publicly available for purchase, and anyone can install them on their car.

A car winch is a device necessary for short-term towing of a vehicle in situations that preclude its independent movement. The principle of operation of the winch is based on winding a cable around its drum, the free end of which is attached to a stationary, massive object. The method of pulling up to such an object is used to extract the car from seemingly hopeless situations. Currently, the Niva winch has gained the most popularity in three versions: mechanical, hydraulic, electric.

Winch for Niva: how to choose what to buy?

In the vastness of the CIS and Ukraine, the Niva has been and remains a fairly popular SUV.
This is due, first of all, to the low price and availability of spare parts with the well-known design of the Togliatti machine. Therefore, one of the most popular topics for discussion on automobile forums is the topic “Winch for Niva.” Let's try to figure out which winch is best to choose, from which manufacturers and what related options to use. The review provides several examples that you can use as final options or build your own vision of the issue on their basis. Sources:

https://xtreme-trip.ru/offroad/tyuning/kakuyu-lebedku-postavit-na-nivu/ https://pragmatec.com.ua/ru/blog/lebedka-dlja-nivy-kak-vybrat-chto- kupit.html https://www.niva4x4.ru/p/gV8TACerS5-Y9bmdwK_tMQ https://expertvaz.ru/niva/lebedka.html https://inkam-auto.ru/raznoe/kakuyu-lebedku-luchshe-postavit -na-nivu.html

Mechanical devices

The mechanical winch on the Niva is driven by a power take-off unit, which is attached to the transfer case of the vehicle. It is this design that generates the torque of the mechanical device, and the speed of winding the cable is regulated by changing the engine speed. To install such a winch, you may have to use the services of a qualified car mechanic, but this is exactly the case when the ends justify the means.

Installing a winch with a mechanical drive means equipping your Niva with a reliable, unpretentious device of increased power. It is a mechanical winch that many experienced car enthusiasts and professionals consider to be the most optimal equipment option necessary to overcome difficult off-road conditions.

Manual operation mechanism

However, compared to other types of winches, mechanical winches can be the most expensive option. Also, it does not have a remote control and cannot be used alone. When using it, it is impossible for one person to simultaneously control the winding of the cable and regulate the speed of its winding by engine speed.

Hydraulics

Let's say the owner of a Niva decided to install a winch that operates using a hydraulic motor.

Often, such a winch motor is driven by the car's power steering pump. In this case, the traction power to the winch drum is transmitted by moving the working fluid of the hydraulic pump to the hydraulic motor using special solenoid valves.

But what to do if your Niva is equipped with electric power steering? In this case, you can install a winch, which is equipped with its own hydraulic pump and pulley. This will not be a cheap pleasure, but a car hydraulic winch will help you get out of many difficult, critical situations with dignity. It is very reliable and resistant to overloads, and is often equipped with a maximum power limiter regulator. When peak loads are reached, this device does not break down, but simply stops.

The tightness of the hydraulic motors allows this type of winches to operate even when immersed in water. Hydraulic winches are high-torque, durable, and can be controlled remotely.

Among the disadvantages of this type of device, it should be noted the low speed of rewinding the cable and the impossibility of operation with the car engine turned off.

Electrics

The most popular type of traction devices for Niva today is the electric winch. Structurally, it consists of an electric motor, a cable winding drum, a gearbox, a contact block and a winch control. Its electric motor is powered by the vehicle’s on-board network.

The electric winch is easily mounted on a vehicle, convenient to use, and can be operated with remote control. Unlike mechanical and hydraulic analogues, it can be operated with the Niva engine turned off.

Protection of the housing from atmospheric precipitation should not serve as a basis for the electric winch to be used by car owners for operation under water. If this does happen for any reason, you should not delay the preventive inspection of the winch to check for water ingress and compaction of possible places of its leakage.

If you decide to install a winch with an electric motor, it is advisable to equip the Niva with a high-capacity battery. This need is dictated by the fact that the electric winch, during its operation, consumes a significant amount of electricity from the on-board network. To prevent the Niva’s standard battery from completely breaking down in such a situation, it is better to replace it with a more capacious one in advance or take an additional power source with you on the road.

It should be remembered that the electric winch should not exceed its continuous operation time, limited to 10-15 minutes, after which the battery energy becomes insufficient for its full operation. In addition, its electric motor tends to overheat, so working with this type of winch requires breaks.

Mounting options

You can install a winch on your Niva using one of the three most common options:

• removable design - a special bracket is permanently attached to the car, the winch on the Niva moves in the trunk and is installed on the bracket only if necessary;
• fastening to a power bumper - requires preliminary reliable, strong fixation of a reinforced bumper to the Niva body, on which a car winch is subsequently installed;
• installation of the mount in the front bumper - the platform for the winch is built into the standard front bumper of the Niva, while the design of the device is visually almost invisible.

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Winch installation options

Portable winch

You don’t have to install a winch at all, but use a portable one. The most popular models of portable winches for Niva are Stokrat SN 6.0 S and Superwinch Winch2GO. The traction is quite sufficient, but you can also increase the traction force using a block. Advantages of a portable winch: versatility - you can pull a car by the front/back, you can pull any car, use the winch on the farm or lend it to a neighbor. In addition, you can make a portable winch yourself to suit any requirements; everything necessary for this (platform, wires, connectors, fasteners) can be purchased at Elektrolebedka.ru.

Stationary winch

Until the end of the article we will talk about stationary winches. If you often use the Niva to conquer off-road terrain, and you have to use a winch quite often, we definitely recommend installing the winch permanently. To install it in a standard bumper, and in the case of the Niva, rather ON a standard bumper, you will need to make or buy a platform. You can easily find how to do this on the Internet. It is recommended to install lightweight winches 6000-6500lbs on the Niva. Below we offer you winches that, according to all criteria, are ideal for installation on the Niva. In most cases, a winch suitable for civilian use is T-MAX ATW 6000, but if you have a seriously prepared car, then it is better to choose a traction force of 6500-8000.

Required Accessories

When you have decided how to install a winch on your Niva, it’s time to equip it with the accessories necessary for successful operation.

Minimum required accessories:

• protective gloves - for safe work with the cable;
• block (minimum 1 pc.) - helps to enhance the traction effect;
• shackle (minimum 1 pc.) - a bracket for connecting chains, cables, blocks, slings;
• bark protection sling (minimum 1 pc.) – protects trees from damage when used as an “anchor”;
• shovel;
• axe.

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Safety regulations

When purchasing and installing any winch on a Niva for your needs, every vehicle owner must know the most important rules for its safe operation.

Here is a short list of these rules:

• a car winch should not be used for vertically lifting a car, transporting people, or as a lifting device;
• when operating the winch, it is prohibited to use power and communication line supports, lighting poles, bridge beams, or other suspended structures as an “anchor”;
• Do not operate devices with damaged cables, shackles, blocks, slings; When working with cables, be sure to use protective gloves;
• when operating winches, the presence of people in the area of ​​expected injury, which is possible due to a sudden cable break, is excluded;
• It is unacceptable to secure the winch cable to a tree without a bark protection sling;
• control of the operation of the device is carried out visually, to the side, at a sufficient distance, but in no case in front of the car;
• You can approach the winch only after first stopping it and loosening the cable tension.

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Device selection and final recommendations

Of course, for the owner of an ordinary passenger car or a car that is operated strictly within city limits, such a device may be absolutely useless. But for true supporters of fishing, hunting, mushroom pickers and lovers of off-road travel, installing a winch on the Niva is a must. It will be indispensable when freeing it from snow or mud captivity, water, bogs and other similar off-road conditions, which abound in our open spaces.

It is very important to choose and install the winch correctly on your Niva so that it is as efficient in use as possible, matches the technical parameters of the car and does not spoil its visual appeal.

The traction force of the purchased winch should exceed the total weight of the Niva by 1.5-2 times. Decide in advance where to install the device: in the front of the car, in the rear, on the front arch, in the bumper. Knowing the expected operating conditions of your Niva and the features of using winches of all types will allow you to choose a mechanical, hydraulic or electric type for yourself.

A specialized automotive service station can help you with installing the entire set of traction devices on the Niva, which will also take on warranty obligations. The safe operation of the device, the reliability of its operation and the longevity of operation will depend on correct installation in the future.

Take a serious and balanced approach to choosing and installing a winch on your car. This will allow you to ensure the availability of any road conditions for your Niva in the future.

Winch T-MAX EW-6500 OFF-ROAD Improved

Powerful and fast winch - for regular use and competitions
The design of this winch is almost identical to the T-max 9500-12500 lbs models, which indicates a large margin of safety. The same 5.5 hp engine. as on older models, faster gearbox, shorter drum, excellent mechanical reliability, proven over years of operation. The winch of all times for Nivavodov, one of the most popular!

Manual winch for Niva

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We have two - a light one for cars with a leg that screws into the ground and is more powerful. At the 3rd BZK they pulled her up the hill. Almost pulled out.

Of course, there is smoke in the operation compared to the installed full-fledged electric ones, but they still save you in some places.

Easy to use.

Lightweight in the trunk.

Heavy in action.

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In response to: It turns out that the g/p is only 1.6. It’s strange, because there is a 4 right there at g/p. The advantage of the LR is in the length of the cable, because At 9 meters it is more convenient to pull. I want to buy MTM 3.2. I'm still thinking. Taking into account the fact that the rope and the rope itself live separately in the transport position, the weights are feasible for one person.

MTM 1.6 drags the UAZ flat across the swamp. The Niva may be torn