The situation when reverse gear does not engage on a VAZ 2109 is one of the most common problems with this car model. In addition, the VAZ 2108/09/099 “Samara” and VAZ 2113/14/15 “Samara-2” cars were equipped with the same type of gearbox (gearbox), so this transmission malfunction is typical not only for “Nines”.
Often, an attempt to engage a gear is accompanied by a strong crunch of gears, and if the gear is able to be engaged, the gearbox makes noise when moving in reverse. Other owners are faced with a situation where the gear shift lever moves forward all the way, but reverse gear does not work. At the same time, there are no complaints about shifting forward gears.
Changing the gearbox oil
Replacing the gear selection mechanism
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Repair or replacement
If, during checking the condition of the box, serious damage to its elements was revealed, then serious repairs cannot be avoided.
It should be immediately noted that independent dismantling, repair and reassembly of a gearbox requires not only very good equipment (nominally a pit or overpass, a lifting device, as well as a large set of tools are required), but also very serious knowledge.
That is why, if the gears of a VAZ 2114 do not engage, such repairs should be entrusted to specialists from car service centers.
It should be remembered that independent repair or replacement of the gearbox automatically leads to the loss of all warranty obligations from the manufacturer. For this reason, repairs to a car that is under warranty should be entrusted to branded repair shops.
If we talk about the choice between repair and complete replacement of the unit, then in most cases you should choose the first option. This is due to two reasons. Firstly, the cost of a completely new box exceeds 15 thousand rubles. (moreover, this amount is indicated without taking into account the cost of its installation). In any case, repairs will be much cheaper. And secondly, complete wear of the box (to a state unsuitable for repair) is extremely rare.
The cost of the repair work itself varies from service to service and depends on:
- the size of the locality (and, as a consequence, the presence of competitors);
- type of breakdown;
- the size of the car service (and whether it is official);
- additional clauses in the terms of the contract.
Troubleshooting
Many transmission malfunctions that cause the reverse gear to disappear or fall out can be eliminated without removing the unit from the car.
If the cause is a loosening of the bolt securing the clamp on the rod, then to correct the defect it is necessary:
- Place the car on a lift.
- Completely loosen the clamp nut.
- Place the gearshift lever in the fully engaged reverse gear position.
- Fully engage reverse gear at the gearbox using the shift rod on the crankcase.
- Tighten the clamp mounting bolt.
Backstage adjustment
If tightening the clamp does not help get rid of the problem, then you need to check the condition of the shift drive parts. One of the reasons why the reverse gear does not engage may be a poorly adjusted rocker.
To make adjustments to the mechanism, you may need the following tools:
- two wrenches with a size of 13 mm, preferably a socket design;
- any wrench or 10 mm socket;
- small hammer;
- slotted screwdriver.
Since the cause of malfunction of the link can be wear of parts, spare parts may be needed:
- universal joint of the rocker;
- Sometimes the shift rod seal may need to be replaced.
Two people are required to adjust the rocker or replace parts of its drive. One person must change gears from the passenger compartment, and the second must adjust the travel of the shift rods.
The order of work is as follows:
- Provide access to the bottom of the car by placing it on a pit or a lift.
- Using a 13 mm wrench, loosen the clamp installed on the gear shift rod.
- Remove the rod from the box rod.
- Using a screwdriver, carefully remove the boot.
- Using a 10 mm wrench, unscrew the fixing bolt on the cardan shaft.
- Knock off the cardan shaft with light blows of a hammer. It is important not to damage the shaft.
- Remove the universal joint seal boot.
- If there is an oil leak, the sealing gland on the box rod must be replaced.
- Install a new boot (or leave the old one if it is intact) and install the universal joint on the shaft.
- Align the hole on the cardan with the notch on the shaft.
- Tighten the 10 mm clamp and install the boot completely in place.
- Install the rod on the cardan rod and adjust the gearshift lever travel.
- The second person should sit in the driver's seat, set the gear shift lever to neutral, move it slightly to the right and hold it in that position.
- After this, you need to tighten the 13 mm clamp nut.
Typically, after such a repair, the reverse gear starts to engage without problems. In addition, the operation of the entire gear selection mechanism on the VAZ-2109 becomes clearer.
The video from the author MegaMeyhem shows the process of replacing the backstage.
Changing the gearbox oil
If the oil seal on the rod is damaged, oil leaks out of the gearbox housing, and dirt can get into the box itself. These factors may be the reason why reverse gear stops engaging. In addition, the oil in the box loses its properties during operation, so it must be replaced preventively at least once every 35–40 thousand kilometers.
Before replacing, you need to check the condition of the oil in the box. To do this, you need to remove the oil dipstick installed in the gearbox housing and visually assess the quality of the oil. The presence of metal and dirt particles in the oil on the dipstick is unacceptable. The oil itself should be quite liquid and not stick to your hands in a thick layer.
Dipstick with oil level marks
To replace, you will need the following materials and tools:
- New oil. When purchasing oil, you need to consider the type of gearbox. For fairly rare four-speed gearboxes, three liters of oil are required, for newer five-speed ones - 3.3 liters. The oil itself must have a tolerance of 80W-85, the manufacturer does not matter.
- A container for draining old oil with a volume of at least 4 liters.
- A funnel with a hose for pouring new oil or a syringe.
- Wrenches 12 and 17 mm of any type.
- Rags and cleaning solvent.
The actual work order is as follows:
- Place the car with the heated gearbox on the pit.
- Remove the rubber plug from the gearbox ventilation valve installed on the top of the crankcase.
- Clean the valve and plug from dust and dirt. It is convenient to clean parts with thin wire and a rag.
- Reinstall clean parts.
- Wipe off dirt from the bottom of the box. Unscrew the plug on the bottom of the box housing.
- Place a container under the drain hole and drain the oil. It will completely merge in at least 20-25 minutes.
- After this, screw the drain plug back into place and carefully tighten it with a wrench. First, the plug and hole must be thoroughly wiped with a rag.
- Pour fresh oil through the oil level dipstick hole in the box.
- During filling, it is necessary to check the oil level, which normally should be between o and “MAX” on the dipstick rod.
- If there is an overflow, the oil can be pumped out with a large medical syringe with a tube on the spout.
- Within a few days after the change, it is advisable to check the level and appearance of the oil. You also need to make sure that there are no leaks through the plug and box seals.
Rubber crankcase ventilation cap Drain hole on the crankcase Dipstick in the upper part of the crankcase An oil funnel installed in the dipstick hole
On early versions of front-wheel drive VAZ gearboxes there is no hole for the dipstick. To fill the oil in the crankcase of such boxes there is a control hole closed with a threaded plug. Filling is carried out using an oil syringe. The oil level is considered normal when it reaches the lower edge of the inspection hole.
The arrow indicates the inspection hole on the side of the gearbox housing. Filling oil with a transmission syringe.
Replacement box - new or old?
If the reason why the gears on the VAZ 2114 are poorly engaged is due to very severe wear of the gearbox components, and it turns out that its repair will be more expensive than a complete replacement, then the motorist is faced with a choice - install a new gearbox or give preference to a “restored” one.
The first option is certainly preferable, but the fact is that a new gearbox is not cheap at all (as mentioned above).
The cost of a refurbished one is much less (sometimes such a box costs 70% less than a new one).
A rebuilt gearbox is an excellent option, which is almost in no way inferior in quality to a new gearbox, but at the same time costs much less. The only thing to remember is that such units should only be purchased from trusted companies that professionally restore them and provide a guarantee for their products.
It should also be remembered that if there is a choice, it is better to give preference to the “middle option”. You should absolutely not purchase refurbished boxes from little-known companies at a very low price.
How to repair a VAZ 2109 gearbox?
How to find a fault in the gearbox of a VAZ 2109
Special cases
Second gear is not detected.
When you start the car, noise comes from the gearbox and you hear crunching noises.
- the fifth gear or reverse gear has failed;
- The release bearing or the input shaft bearing is faulty.
Any transmission fails.
When driving at 9, there is a hum, when I press the clutch the hum does not stop. What's humming, bearings?
Hello everyone, help me, on 09, speed 2 stuck and won’t let go, what should I do? but we already sorted it out, now it’s set to 3 speed again, what should I do?
Possibly a bearing. Soon he’s still walking freely along the shaft. The shaft must be together with the internal part of the bearing. spin, and he rotates freely in it. It is also likely that this is the reason for the rumble.
I have a similar situation. I went through the box twice. I changed all the bearings, but the noise never went away. I'm already starting to get used to it.
The situation is exactly like this, it’s like my car in the video. Most likely you need to make a mistake in 5th gear, the only question is how to check. But one idea has appeared, you can remove the 5th gear cover, open two nuts, remove the 5th gear gears, close the cover, add oil, and then everything will be clear. I’m thinking about doing this one of these days. Report the results.
Advice for motorists
Above we have already talked about why the reverse gear on the VAZ 2114 does not engage and how to correct this situation. But it should also be noted that proper and timely care of the gearbox will help either completely avoid such a situation or postpone it for as long as possible.
There are only two basic rules for this care:
- Change gears, as well as accelerate and brake the vehicle as smoothly as possible, without jerking.
- Periodically check the oil level, replenish it as it is used, and also replace the entire volume if it is worn out.
These simple rules will help to significantly increase the service life of the entire box and its individual parts.
The reverse gear of the VAZ 2114 stopped engaging - video
Not so long ago, reverse gear began to engage with a crunch, and then disappeared completely! In the video I explained everything briefly and clearly! The same goes for owners of 08/09/10/11/12/13/14/15 models Lada, Kalina, Priora, Grant here too) The reasons were told on the YouTube channel:
VAZ 2115 | Gear shift
Gear shift and lever position
The gear shift positions are shown on the handle. Before engaging reverse gear, you need to lift the ring under the lever handle.
When changing gears, fully depress the clutch pedal and then gently release it. It is not recommended to drive a car with one hand on the gearshift lever, as this increases wear on the gearbox.
When shifting from fifth to fourth gear, do not press the lever laterally, so as not to accidentally engage second gear, which will cause the engine to exceed the permissible speed and damage it.
Before engaging reverse gear, make sure that the car is at rest and your foot is not on the gas pedal. Move the lever from the neutral position to the right until it stops, and then engage the rear
move.
The table below shows the driving speeds at which the next gear should be engaged for the greatest fuel economy.
Gear shift. automatic transmission
At the base of the selector lever there is an illuminated dial showing the selector range position symbols.
P - Parking R - Rear
stroke N - Neutral position
Forward gears:
D - 1st. 4th gear 3 - 1st. 3rd gear 2 - 1st. 2nd gear 1 - 1st gear
Why reverse gear does not engage - common reasons
In this article we will look at the main reasons:
Speed switch
- The first thing you need to pay attention to is the rocker itself and the cardan - it often happens that the rocker slips, the splines are ground off or the clamp is loose. In this case, you will need an overpass or a pit.
- Reverse gear locking mechanism. To check this mechanism, you need to remove the gearshift knob (the dashboard between the seats) and look. Everything will become clear.
- If you checked the first two points and found no problems, then you will have to remove the gearbox.
- The fixing bolt was cut off.
- Fastening the gear selection mechanism.
- A spring (the most common one sometimes bursts).
Alternatively, the reason may be in the release bearing, but then all gears would be engaged barely and with a crunch. You can also try adjusting the clutch pedal.
Extending the service life of gearboxes
You will be able to use your car for many years without going to car repair shops if you can follow basic recommendations. They will extend the service life of the gearbox, minimize possible problems, breakdowns and the need for repair work.
There are only two recommendations.
- Always try to monitor the oil level in the gearbox. If it drops, be sure to top it up immediately, do not delay the procedure until later. When the oil becomes unusable, change it completely, rather than fill in the missing amount.
- Avoid aggressive use, do not jerk the gears sharply, accelerate smoothly, and brake similarly. A simple caring attitude towards the gearbox will allow you to avoid wear and tear and numerous breakdowns.
As you can see, solving problems with checkpoints is not so easy. Therefore, the best option is to prevent their occurrence.